yup the most generation that is likely to seek help for it and to be mocked by the previous generation for doing so as well. thanks for posting another comic page
Technology has very little to do with it. We were, collectively, raised by one of the most narcissistic generations to ever exist during an age of increased economic desperation during which people have had to fight constantly to be recognized as deserving basic human decency while being told that bigotry and prejudice were over. We were told that higher education was the key to a successful life only to end up with an economy that doesn’t support anything of the sort and more student loan debt than ever seen before. We’ve been lied to and gaslighted our whole lives and now we’re infantilized and blamed for all of the things that happened to us as children by the very people who were responsible for us as children.
Of course we seek help more than any generation before. We need it more.
Love this. I’m not a Millennial, and I don’t think you are either, but older people bash on that generation constantly and it drives me crazy. It’s very rare to see anyone outside that age range defend them.
Older people always put down the younger generation, and have been doing so for millennia.
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.” — Socrates
Millennials are also, in my experience, more likely to be actually supportive of friends and family dealing with depression or other mental health issues. It’s far less of a stigma in their view.
“Generation” is a marketing fiction, just a wedge used to foment misunderstanding and prop up a doomed consumerist world view that serves only profiteers. The sooner we accept that we all have the same basic needs regardless of chrono age or demographic label, and that we can provide each other with most of tgese needs at little cost, the better off we will all be.
I’m an Old. I can clearly divide my life between Before Online Support and After Online Support. Before, I could find support in meatspace if I had the money or somebody was running a free support group (so, if they had the money) and if I could scrape together the energy to actually go there and furthermore if the counselor or facilitator wasn’t a dickhead (and some of them sure were). After, all I needed was a computer–and it didn’t even have to be mine–and a search engine. Up at 2:30 because the black dog is biting? Somebody else is bound to be up too.
I recently graduated myself from an online support group for people whose childhood Stuff mirrors mine so closely that our families of origin appear to be quoting from the same script, even though we are generations, even continents, apart. Thanks to that group, I have the tools I need to avoid repeating childhood patterns. My best meatspace counselor was able to approach the issue and let me know that some things are not okay and I don’t have to put up with them, but she didn’t have access to the massive database of literally tens of thousands of people saying, “Yes, that happened to me too, and the outcome was…”
Not to mention that my problems were Not Talked About in the days before everybody could talk about them online, so I spent many years thinking that I was the problem. Now you can type your issues into a search engine and get pages information that could point you to support groups, doctors, self-help books, and self-care methods, and first and most importantly, a name for what is wrong and proof that it isn’t just you.
You forgot a few: “they’re just being lazy”, “they gotta get over that life isn’t fair and learn things can’t be given to them”, “they think they’re SO SPECIAL claiming they have ‘mental health issues’. ”
I remember being told “you could’ve been doing more instead of wasting your energy on suicidal/depressive thoughts.”
Wow, does this hit home. I’m right in the middle of the generation and it’s amazing how older people beat up on us for everything. They don’t seem to realize that while we have better technology and such, life is simpler harder in a way it wasn’t for the past generation. They could finish high school, be guaranteed a decent job, afford to live, expect to get married and have kids (if they desired), buy a nice house, and retire. A lot of us can’t even get half that because we’re either dealing hard with mental issues that make it almost impossible to do much of anything or we’re so bogged down in debt by the time we graduate college (and a lot of us don’t get jobs in our chosen field even with the degrees that we were pushed to get) that it takes years and years of living almost like you’re homeless or living at home past 30 to pay things off and finally get your life going. And when you hit 30, job offers become less because you’re “old” and they’re hiring the people who finished high school sooner and jumped right into college and finished everything by 24.
I won’t say my age, but because I had to take years to get my mental health straight, I’m looking at not being hired because of my age, but I can’t get hired anywhere decent until I finish getting my degree. And some of us can’t even get that far and society really doesn’t have a place for people like that, so you either end up on the street or live at home and both have such a stigma that it can kill your social life. And the stuff we feel “entitled” to are things that people used to get, but then in the last generation was voted away or just disappeared. This generation doesn’t get the help it needs, we get blamed for everything, told we want too much, told we’re sensitive crybabies (though it’s mostly that so many of us have mental illness and express it rather than just hold it in), things costs too much, racism and sexism is rampant, climate change is scary, etc. It’s honestly amazing so many of us haven’t just given up. I cheer on my fellows every single day we make it through. And same for gen z and anyone after.
Can I just say I love the art in this, particularly the second panel? It’s a classic look for the comic with nice technical polish, and it gives me a good feeling.
I beg to differ here. Social media is one of the factors that can make you depressed/anxious by lowering your self-esteem. But social media is a great communication tool, although right now I use only messengers and I have quit Instagram for good because it would make me cry every time I saw someone looking so happy and cool. But blaming it all on social media would be unfair.
jackmarten says
yup the most generation that is likely to seek help for it and to be mocked by the previous generation for doing so as well.
thanks for posting another comic page
Jeffery Witman says
Technology has very little to do with it. We were, collectively, raised by one of the most narcissistic generations to ever exist during an age of increased economic desperation during which people have had to fight constantly to be recognized as deserving basic human decency while being told that bigotry and prejudice were over. We were told that higher education was the key to a successful life only to end up with an economy that doesn’t support anything of the sort and more student loan debt than ever seen before. We’ve been lied to and gaslighted our whole lives and now we’re infantilized and blamed for all of the things that happened to us as children by the very people who were responsible for us as children.
Of course we seek help more than any generation before. We need it more.
Koz says
Holy moly yes.
Ian Hill says
Love this. I’m not a Millennial, and I don’t think you are either, but older people bash on that generation constantly and it drives me crazy. It’s very rare to see anyone outside that age range defend them.
clay says
Generation Xers like myself tend to sympathize a lot with millennials but no one really cares what we think anyways.
Agarax says
Older people always put down the younger generation, and have been doing so for millennia.
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.” — Socrates
sickofit says
I find it funny people want to shout “Millennial this” “Millennial that” when millennials are pushing 40.
Jara Koul says
Millennials are also, in my experience, more likely to be actually supportive of friends and family dealing with depression or other mental health issues. It’s far less of a stigma in their view.
Javier P. Sánchez says
I don’t believe in generstions. It’s a myth. Every person is different.
Art See says
“Generation” is a marketing fiction, just a wedge used to foment misunderstanding and prop up a doomed consumerist world view that serves only profiteers. The sooner we accept that we all have the same basic needs regardless of chrono age or demographic label, and that we can provide each other with most of tgese needs at little cost, the better off we will all be.
dellstories says
I suspect that it’s not that millennials have a higher rate of depression so much as they’re more likely to recognize and admit that they have it
Jenny Islander says
And they do that because of the Internet!!!!
I’m an Old. I can clearly divide my life between Before Online Support and After Online Support. Before, I could find support in meatspace if I had the money or somebody was running a free support group (so, if they had the money) and if I could scrape together the energy to actually go there and furthermore if the counselor or facilitator wasn’t a dickhead (and some of them sure were). After, all I needed was a computer–and it didn’t even have to be mine–and a search engine. Up at 2:30 because the black dog is biting? Somebody else is bound to be up too.
I recently graduated myself from an online support group for people whose childhood Stuff mirrors mine so closely that our families of origin appear to be quoting from the same script, even though we are generations, even continents, apart. Thanks to that group, I have the tools I need to avoid repeating childhood patterns. My best meatspace counselor was able to approach the issue and let me know that some things are not okay and I don’t have to put up with them, but she didn’t have access to the massive database of literally tens of thousands of people saying, “Yes, that happened to me too, and the outcome was…”
Not to mention that my problems were Not Talked About in the days before everybody could talk about them online, so I spent many years thinking that I was the problem. Now you can type your issues into a search engine and get pages information that could point you to support groups, doctors, self-help books, and self-care methods, and first and most importantly, a name for what is wrong and proof that it isn’t just you.
Jay Low says
You forgot a few: “they’re just being lazy”, “they gotta get over that life isn’t fair and learn things can’t be given to them”, “they think they’re SO SPECIAL claiming they have ‘mental health issues’. ”
I remember being told “you could’ve been doing more instead of wasting your energy on suicidal/depressive thoughts.”
Lee says
Wow, does this hit home. I’m right in the middle of the generation and it’s amazing how older people beat up on us for everything. They don’t seem to realize that while we have better technology and such, life is simpler harder in a way it wasn’t for the past generation. They could finish high school, be guaranteed a decent job, afford to live, expect to get married and have kids (if they desired), buy a nice house, and retire. A lot of us can’t even get half that because we’re either dealing hard with mental issues that make it almost impossible to do much of anything or we’re so bogged down in debt by the time we graduate college (and a lot of us don’t get jobs in our chosen field even with the degrees that we were pushed to get) that it takes years and years of living almost like you’re homeless or living at home past 30 to pay things off and finally get your life going. And when you hit 30, job offers become less because you’re “old” and they’re hiring the people who finished high school sooner and jumped right into college and finished everything by 24.
I won’t say my age, but because I had to take years to get my mental health straight, I’m looking at not being hired because of my age, but I can’t get hired anywhere decent until I finish getting my degree. And some of us can’t even get that far and society really doesn’t have a place for people like that, so you either end up on the street or live at home and both have such a stigma that it can kill your social life. And the stuff we feel “entitled” to are things that people used to get, but then in the last generation was voted away or just disappeared. This generation doesn’t get the help it needs, we get blamed for everything, told we want too much, told we’re sensitive crybabies (though it’s mostly that so many of us have mental illness and express it rather than just hold it in), things costs too much, racism and sexism is rampant, climate change is scary, etc. It’s honestly amazing so many of us haven’t just given up. I cheer on my fellows every single day we make it through. And same for gen z and anyone after.
Amanda Licorne says
She just became the biggest badass in this strip ♥️
Tarandus says
Can I just say I love the art in this, particularly the second panel? It’s a classic look for the comic with nice technical polish, and it gives me a good feeling.
Bella says
I beg to differ here. Social media is one of the factors that can make you depressed/anxious by lowering your self-esteem. But social media is a great communication tool, although right now I use only messengers and I have quit Instagram for good because it would make me cry every time I saw someone looking so happy and cool.
But blaming it all on social media would be unfair.